— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:30, 16 December 2012 (UTC), Please restore the Thiyya wiki back. It begins from 10th Thulam (around 26th of October) till mid Edavam (around 15th of June) of every year as per Malayalam calendar. This page was deliberately redirected by Sitush. That is their rights. Bibliography: In the olden times monetary benefit was in the form of land trading hence, Nair women let the nampoothiris to whet their sexual appetite in favour of monetary benefit in the form of getting land. Also it's not even history you are talking about. A request to all, Please dont fight among our selves. My parents didn't even know about them. Kali yugam is going on now. Similarly the Christian machineries also did lot of harm to Hindus. this will be an evidence thiyyas are the first community exited and expand in malabr So they formed this SNDP thing to help each other. The book also talks about the origin of the SriLankan people from a princess in Bengal, moves to the arrival of Buddhism, talks about the origin of Nairs and Ezhavas, and skips directly to the LTTE, all within about thirty pages. Panikkans were kalari trainers. 19) Thiyyasamskruti Let thiyyas be a different caste /group of a different origin and culture. Thiyya eat fish, chicken and mutton daily. 22) Bhasma Japala Upanishad Rather, the inclusion happened due to mistake of some social engineers. 34) Narasimha Utharathapini Upanishad. I feel disgusted even to reply to such a comment. Nairs have fared better than . — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:25, 19 December 2012 (UTC), Its must that Thiyya and Ezhava should be seen separate.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:37, 24 March 2012 (UTC), ``Thiyyas of Malabar are the descendants of this group of Kyrgyz, asserts T. Damu book `Lanka Parvam'. are you running away from Dravidian origin? You are trying to make a division among Hindus. Myth states that Sage Agastya was not just diluting the risk of Kalakeyas rather he was the key man in amalgamating/ rehabilitating many of such abolished tribes in to the Dravidian Civilisation by bringing them back to the main stream. Ezhavars or izhavars or illavars are Originated as Elamo-Iranian tribes at western "ilam" provice of Iran and evolved as an Indo-Dravidian race at Harappa Valley Civilisation. If all these put together = (4,32,000 x 4) + (4,32,000 x 3) + (4,32,000 x 2) years = E . Vedas were written by many Rushis (saints) like, Viswamitra gotra, Vasishta gotra, Vyasa gotra etc and those Rushis it was written in various places in bits and pieces. You will get it. Your comment is not exactly provocative but I feel the need to educate you. Population and migration. It is Thiyyas community’s right to offer tender coconut for abhishekam (rituals) to god Siva at Akkara Kottiyur Shiva Temple, in first week of June, once in a year. While the majority of Keralans speak the Malayalam language, various ethnic groups may speak other languages as well. Each Thiyya un divided family used to have their own Kazhakappura (court) in their own tharavadu (joined family house) or Kavu (Temple) or Madappura. I have a relative who is darker than most Black Americans here but calls himself a lineage of Greek ancestry. The Varmas or Nairs never had blue eyes.. We feel proud for not accepting Hinduism in the early years. not to mention a whole host of other races added to the mix, you see the broad spectrum of color in kerala society. (Genealogical Haplogroup H/ I/J/K with submutation to L-M & R1b)…, Nairs or Nagars or Newars are Originated as Naga Tribe at Hindu-Kush region of Central Asia and evolved as a Indo-Mangloid race at Sino-Tibetan valley known or as western brachycephal Tribes. Most,supposed to be facts, put in the original post is what I heard from my family who have been in Kannur since generations. Our SNDP unit has only got a few families. 1) തീയ്യക്ഷേമസഭ Thiyyakshemasabha There is no restriction for that. Billava is another caste which is closely related. 9) Somhithopnished Brahmanam Then onwards, kalari lost its importance. True that. Dravidian Tribes Originted from the clan of 7th Manu, Shradhadeva who also known as Vaivishta manu, whose from the lineage of lord Surya> Kashyap>Marichi. They were equally appealing in terms of complexion and physic too. they have their own wikipedia . There are many Sanskrit words used in Malayalam as it is. Is that your purpose? Best wishes. Bhaskara number system by Dr.N Gopalakrishnan, Scientist, on YouTube. The following formula is repeated by the headman of the bride's party. Kaniyar community used to provide assistance for finding Prashnam, Muhoortham, Jathaka porutham etc pertains to Jyothisham (Astrology). Many Thiyya families have their own Kalari (Martial art Kalaripayattu teaching center) to train their youngsters of the community. Those days, Mali (Malayar lady) used attend the delivery cases, in pregnant ladie’s own home itself. It’s convincing that majority of the Indo-Dravidian tribes and clans Originated from manu and his descendents. 30) Book on Hinduisam Hindu Dharma Sanathana Dharma (Questions and Answers) by Dr. N Gopalakrishnan , IISH, Heritage Publication series 89. Any one can easily make out the difference between Ezhavas (Non Malabar Thiyyas) and the Thiyyas of Malabar. Kali yugam is based on Astronomical phenomenon. If not for that column, my kids would never be aware of caste system. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1954.56.3.02a00100/pdf, Castes-and-Tribes-of-Southern-India-Vol-7 by Thurston, Edgar : Page: 37 - 122. By the way Global racial thesis might have some basis to defend on but indian casteism doesn't have any base to validate its logic. He was also Mayor of Tellichery after his retirement. 'Hindu consolidation won't work in Kerala'. Then bride’s father catches bride’s hands and gives her hand to grooms hand, called kanya danam (donation of his daughter to his son in law). There is no compulsion. They evolved flat mouths to eat the flattened fruits and lost their shells in the warm jungle. 43) Veda Patanam swara practice by Dr. N Gopalakrishnan on YouTube. 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